Good question. I look at it like I'm having a continuing conversation with the song. The lyrics are very imagistic and it struck me that given many (most?) readers' familiarity with the song, I could use the words as a jumping-off point to imagining the scene at Eleanor's funeral. It was fun picking out details - like Father McKenzie's socks, or Eleanor's jar of rice - and adding them to the tale.
I agree that on its own, the one-pager is problematic as a stand-alone piece, but personally I enjoy the frisson generated by the two. There's something intriguing to me about using pop-culture artifacts and common reference points as markers to bounce ideas off of, to spark further creativity.
You see this all the time in comics, where creators use previous creators' work in a self-referential way to tell their own stories. Whether it's ripping off a classic Buscema action pose or a panel from a Tintin comic, the artist uses their swipe to include the reader in an associated set of meanings which gives further resonance (hopefully) to their own work.
Final thought: if I had simply illustrated the scene in a typical way, just one image, no titles or balloons, I'm sure you couldn't object to it. Boring, but standard. But by "illustrating" it in comics form, it rubs you the wrong way. Maybe you're putting inherent limits on what comics can do?
BTW, here are the lyrics:
Ah, look at all the lonely people Ah, look at all the lonely people
Eleanor Rigby picks up the rice in the church where a wedding has been Lives in a dream Waits at the window, wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door Who is it for?
CHORUS: All the lonely people Where do they all come from ? All the lonely people Where do they all belong ?
Father Mckenzie writing the words of a sermon that no one will hear No one comes near. Look at him working. darning his socks in the night when there's nobody there What does he care?
CHORUS
Eleanor Rigby died in the church and was buried along with her name Nobody came Father McKenzie wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave No one was saved
This is a very interesting comic - thanks for posting it, Coal. Comics, being one of the last one-man shows around, continue to be a great platform for very personal expression.
She either has given birth or has a very good idea what it entails. Social customs being what they are, she's probably cleaned more messes - done more laundry, more dishes, more toilets.
I totally picked up on the details... and I don't think its just because I am a Beatlemaniac. Most people will know this song, and will get the references- which are very striking in the lyric- and it's cool that you fleshed it out more, writing a sermon for Fr Mac, and showing us the scene. Each panel, pretty much, has something from the lyric.
Works as a one pager, but naturally I want MORE! :)
Now, are there any copyright issues with you using this? Probably not, as the actual lyrics are not used... but on a related note, your Let It Beast design was banned from Cafe Press for being infringing. -BC
March 26 2005, 23:16:51 UTC 7 years ago
fun fact: although i own john lennon records, i made a conscious effort never to buy any beatles stuff
August 11 2008, 09:44:43 UTC 3 years ago
March 28 2005, 02:34:40 UTC 7 years ago
March 28 2005, 17:31:57 UTC 7 years ago
Is it comics?
Good question. I look at it like I'm having a continuing conversation with the song. The lyrics are very imagistic and it struck me that given many (most?) readers' familiarity with the song, I could use the words as a jumping-off point to imagining the scene at Eleanor's funeral. It was fun picking out details - like Father McKenzie's socks, or Eleanor's jar of rice - and adding them to the tale.I agree that on its own, the one-pager is problematic as a stand-alone piece, but personally I enjoy the frisson generated by the two. There's something intriguing to me about using pop-culture artifacts and common reference points as markers to bounce ideas off of, to spark further creativity.
You see this all the time in comics, where creators use previous creators' work in a self-referential way to tell their own stories. Whether it's ripping off a classic Buscema action pose or a panel from a Tintin comic, the artist uses their swipe to include the reader in an associated set of meanings which gives further resonance (hopefully) to their own work.
Final thought: if I had simply illustrated the scene in a typical way, just one image, no titles or balloons, I'm sure you couldn't object to it. Boring, but standard. But by "illustrating" it in comics form, it rubs you the wrong way. Maybe you're putting inherent limits on what comics can do?
BTW, here are the lyrics:
Ah, look at all the lonely people
Ah, look at all the lonely people
Eleanor Rigby picks up the rice in the church where a wedding has been
Lives in a dream
Waits at the window, wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door
Who is it for?
CHORUS:
All the lonely people
Where do they all come from ?
All the lonely people
Where do they all belong ?
Father Mckenzie writing the words of a sermon that no one will hear
No one comes near.
Look at him working. darning his socks in the night when there's nobody there
What does he care?
CHORUS
Eleanor Rigby died in the church and was buried along with her name
Nobody came
Father McKenzie wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave
No one was saved
CHORUS
March 29 2005, 15:17:10 UTC 7 years ago
Re: Is it comics?
OF COURSE it's comix. Thanks for explaining your intent and process. It's very interesting. Something I would never consider.July 16 2008, 06:49:07 UTC 3 years ago
July 16 2008, 14:39:04 UTC 3 years ago
Coal?
August 11 2008, 08:10:42 UTC 3 years ago
February 21 2009, 10:02:50 UTC 3 years ago
Regards,
i have gifts
August 11 2008, 06:49:04 UTC 3 years ago
Anonymous
August 1 2006, 13:42:50 UTC 5 years ago
Sweet
I totally picked up on the details... and I don't think its just because I am a Beatlemaniac. Most people will know this song, and will get the references- which are very striking in the lyric- and it's cool that you fleshed it out more, writing a sermon for Fr Mac, and showing us the scene. Each panel, pretty much, has something from the lyric.Works as a one pager, but naturally I want MORE! :)
Now, are there any copyright issues with you using this? Probably not, as the actual lyrics are not used... but on a related note, your Let It Beast design was banned from Cafe Press for being infringing.
-BC
August 2 2006, 00:50:05 UTC 5 years ago
Re: Sweet
yo bc, your comments mean that much more to me knowing you are a true beatles afficianado!re: "let it beast" — my first CD cover, a keen t-shirt, and now officially censored. the coolness never stops!!!
Anonymous
August 2 2006, 22:17:49 UTC 5 years ago
Re: Sweet
re-cafepressthat's unfortunate BC, their checking dept. has slip ups though....
they printed my logo on a dozen shirts....you know the one ;)
..Love the comic strip btw...another beatlefreak here.
MP3J
Anonymous
April 28 2007, 20:10:50 UTC 5 years ago
father mckenzie
omg i love the beatles!!!